2026年9月21日 星期一

John Berger(約翰.伯格) 的著作 The Shape of a Pocket : the River Pothe River Po Michelangelo Antonioni (1912~2007) r :An Apple Orchard (An Open Letter to Raymond Barre, Mayor of Lyon)......139 紀念 John Berger (鍾漢清) 2017-02-18。《約翰‧伯格的三重生命》(2021) A Writer of Our Time: The Life and Work of John Berger By Joshua Sperling, 2018。紀念 John Berger 2017 、John Berger 在博斯普鲁斯、 A story for Aesop 、圖像與文字之關係.....

John Berger(約翰.伯格) 的著作 The Shape of a Pocket  : the River Pothe River Po  Michelangelo Antonioni (1912~2007)    r :An Apple Orchard (An Open Letter to Raymond Barre, Mayor of Lyon)......139 紀念 John Berger (鍾漢清) 2017-02-18。《約翰‧伯格的三重生命》(2021) A Writer of Our Time: The Life and Work of John Berger By Joshua Sperling,  2018。紀念 John Berger 2017 、John Berger 在博斯普鲁斯、 A story for Aesop 、圖像與文字之關係.....

John Berger(約翰.伯格) 的著作 The Shape of a Pocket 翻譯為 《另類的出口》


the River Po  Michelangelo Antonioni (1912~2007       john berger  


聽說些里斯本(Lisbon) 的故事
https://www.facebook.com/hanching.chung/videos/1000477094751063


《約翰‧伯格的三重生命》上海:上海人民,2021
書名:A Writer of Our Time: The Life and Work of John Berger,語言:英文,ISBN:9781786637437,頁數:304,作者:Sperling, Joshua,出版日期:2018/2020/04


A Writer of Our Time
The Life and Work of John Berger
by Joshua Sperling

The first intellectual biography of the life and work of John Berger

John Berger was one of the most influential thinkers and writers of postwar Europe. As a novelist, he won the Booker prize in 1972, donating half his prize money to the Black Panthers. As a TV presenter, he changed the way we looked at art with Ways of Seeing. As a storyteller and political activist, he defended the rights and dignity of workers, migrants, and the oppressed around the world. “Far from dragging politics into art,” he wrote in 1953, “art has dragged me into politics.” He remained a revolutionary up to his death in January 2017.

Built around a series of watersheds, at once personal and historical, A Writer of Our Time traces Berger’s development from his roots as a postwar art student and polemicist in the Cold War battles of 1950s London, through the heady days of the 1960s—when the revolutions were not only political but sexual and artistic—to Berger’s reinvention as a rural storyteller and the long hangover that followed the rise and fall of the New Left.

Drawing on first-hand, unpublished interviews and archival sources only recently made available, Joshua Sperling digs beneath the moments of controversy to reveal a figure of remarkable complexity and resilience. The portrait that emerges is of a cultural innovator as celebrated as he was often misunderstood, and a writer increasingly driven as much by what he loved as by what he opposed. A Writer of Our Time brings the many faces of John Berger together, repatriating one of our great minds to the intellectual dramas of his and our time.



2017
本月要紀念John Berger。談他的力作FELLOW PRISONERS (約2011年)之後,以為準備就緒,沒想到又讀到一篇傑作 An Apple Orchard (An Open Letter to Raymond Barre, Mayor of Lyon)--光這篇,就值得去買{另類出口}譯作 (台北麥田),而我SLIDES已作成,還覺得只談了原篇交響曲般的文意中的一條線索而已!
現在的資訊發達,可以知道里昂市長(1996-2001) Raymond Barre是法國政壇奇人,他的計畫遷建約1848年建的監獄 (在隆河兩支流之間),至今也沒落實 (囚犯2009年都遷走了,兩座監獄 (Berger的傑作內有之間的通道,監獄外的人與內部親友之"呼"話......)的建物仍在)。Berger請教森林專家,建議栽種Spartan蘋果品種 (20世紀加拿大的科學選種),
果樹間相具距6米 (囚犯平均面積3米乘3米,遠比林文蔚 Ewam Lin 畫筆下的台灣鐵窗內朋友的,寬敞得多多.......)


2017年元月,John Berger過世,影響我很大,所以做幾片:

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139 紀念 John Berger (鍾漢清) 2017-02-18
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紀念John Berger (鍾漢清) 2017-02-18 1.奇人:John Berger 00-36min 2.John Berger :藝術文學36min-62min 3.


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160 Istanbul (II):John Berger on Bosphorus 1979 【漢清講堂】 心得分享與討論會地址:台北市新生南路三段88號2樓1934年﹐土耳其 ...


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180 A story for Aesop :John Berger 漢清講堂 2017-07-20
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維拉斯奎茲(Diego Velázquez)1599-1660),是文藝復興後期、巴洛克時代、西班牙黃金時代的一位畫家,對後來的畫家影響很大,哥雅 ...











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153 補述B(許達然-John Berger....圖像與文字之關係)2017-04-21 鍾漢清


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【漢清講堂】 2017.4.22 心得分享與討論會日期:2017年4月22日(周六),10:00~ 13:00 地址:台北市新生南路三段88號2樓電話:(02) ...






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152 補述A(許達然-John Berger....圖像與文字之關係)2017-04-21 鍾漢清


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許達然-John Berger....圖像與文字之關係(鍾漢清) 【漢清講堂】 2017.4.22 心得分享與討論會日期:2017年4月22日(周六),10:00~ ...

2026年9月5日 星期六

HC與張華兄 站在GOOGLE AI 巨人的肩上談奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)的小說 Mr Stone and the Knights Companion,中譯"同偷懶同薪酬"的原文與翻譯: Equal pay for equal shirk",改自原來的口號"equal pay for equal work".。 2026。 張華2016: 雙關語 (puns)的專題,到《浮生六記》芸問曰:「今日之遊樂乎?」眾曰:「非夫人之力不及此。」大笑而散。 2026 跟GOOGLE AI 與 V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》學英文雙關語:我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL

  HC與張華兄 站在GOOGLE AI 巨人的肩上談奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)的小說 Mr Stone and the Knights Companion,中譯"同偷懶同薪酬"的原文與翻譯: Equal pay for equal shirk",改自原來的口號"equal pay for equal work".。    2026。 張華2016: 雙關語 (puns)的專題,到《浮生六記》芸問曰:「今日之遊樂乎?」眾曰:「非夫人之力不及此。」大笑而散。   2026   跟GOOGLE AI 與    V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》學英文雙關語:我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL      


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HC與張華兄 站在GOOGLE AI 巨人的肩上談奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)的小說 Mr Stone and the Knights Companion,中譯"同偷懶同薪酬"的原文與翻譯: Equal pay for equal shirk",改自原來的口號"equal pay for equal work".。      跟GOOGLE AI 與    V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》學英文雙關語:我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL  

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張華兄:

V. S. NAIPAUL小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》一句雙關語的討論


一位朋友(版主)來問:我只有 V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》,無英文本。提問:請解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬"。


我的回答:


查過奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)的小說 Mr Stone and the Knights Companion,中譯"同偷懶同薪酬"的原文是"Equal pay for equal shirk",改自原來的口號"equal pay for equal work".其實這屬於戲仿修辭(parody),不是雙關語。

依照戲仿修辭格的原則,戲仿文應該和原句大體相似,原句"equal pay for equal work"一般譯爲 “同工同酬”,與它最接近的形式是“同工同偷(懶)”。這個懶字在文脈内可以理解。如不考慮押韻,也可譯爲“同工同混“,意思更清楚。


張華兄:

"Equal pay for equal shirk" is a cynical pun used by the character Bill Whymper in V.S. Naipaul’s 1963 novel, Mr Stone and the Knights Companion. 查過奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)的中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》,"同偷懶同薪酬"的原文是"Equal pay for equal shirk",改自原來的口號"equal pay for equal work".其實這屬於戲仿修辭(parody),不是雙關語。依照戲仿修辭格的原則,戲仿文應該和原句大體相似,原句"equal pay for equal work"一般譯爲 “同工同酬”,與它最接近的形式是“同工同偷(懶)”。這個懶字在文脈内可以理解。

如不考慮押韻,也可譯爲“同工同混“,意思更清楚。

改爲“同懶同酬”或““同混同酬“。


-----++++++++++底下HC問GOOGLE AI

跟GOOGLE AI 與    V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》學英文雙關語:我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL  



我只有  V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》,無英文本

我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL



GOOGLE AI 答

In V.S. Naipaul's 1963 novel, Mr. Stone and the Knights Companion, the phrase "同偷懶同薪酬" translates to the English pun: "Equal slack, equal sack" or "Equal shirking, equal earning."
A pun (雙關語) is a humorous use of a word or phrase that has more than one meaning, or words that sound similar but mean different things. In the context of corporate life and retirement in Naipaul's book, this phrase plays with the ideas of modern work culture, laziness, and compensation.
Here is a comprehensive explanation of how to express and understand this pun in English.

1. Direct Translations for the Pun
To capture the rhyme, rhythm, and double-meaning of the Chinese phrase, you can use these English versions:
  • "Equal shirking, equal earning."
    • Shirking means avoiding work or being lazy (偷懶).
    • Earning refers to the salary or pay (薪酬).
    • This echoes the famous political slogan "Equal pay for equal work" but twists it cynically to mean: "If we all slack off the same amount, we should all get paid the same amount."
  • "Equal slack, equal sack."
    • Slack means to laze around or work slowly.
    • Sack is a slang term for a bag of money (payday) or getting fired. In a humorous way, it mimics a corporate policy rhyme.

2. Deep Dive: The Meaning in Naipaul's Novel
In Mr. Stone and the Knights Companion, the protagonist Richard Stone works for Excal and faces the dread of retirement and idleness. The pun "同偷懶同薪酬" reflects corporate satire where minimal effort yields steady pay, and mirrors his anxious outlook on aging and loss of productive routine.
3. Summary of the Pun Components
  • Pun / Wordplay (雙關語): Using rhythmic or witty phrasing to critique office culture.
  • Equal Shirking / Slacking (同偷懶): Collective avoidance of hard work.
  • Equal Earning / Pay (同薪酬): Maintaining the same salary regardless of actual output.
For further academic breakdown or literary analysis paragraphs regarding Mr. Stone's character, feel free to ask!

在V.S.奈保爾1963年的小說《斯通先生與騎士伴侶》中,「同偷懶同薪酬」這句話可以翻譯成英文雙關語:「Equal slack, equal sack」或「Equal shirking, equal earning」。


雙關語(pun)是指幽默地使用一個單字或短語,使其具有多種含義,或使用發音相似但意思不同的單字。在奈保爾的小說中,這句話以公司生活和退休為背景,巧妙地諷刺了現代工作文化、懶惰和薪資等概念。


以下是如何用英語表達和理解這個雙關語的詳細解釋。


1. 雙關語的直接翻譯


為了捕捉中文片語的韻律、節奏和雙關意義,你可以使用以下英文版本:


“Equal shirking, equal earning.”


「Shirking」指的是逃避工作或偷懶。


收入指的是薪水或報酬(薪酬)。


這呼應了著名的政治口號“同工同酬”,但卻以一種諷刺的方式將其扭曲為:“如果我們都偷懶到同樣的程度,我們就應該都拿到同樣的報酬。”


“同偷懶,同失業。”


「偷懶」指的是懶散或工作遲緩。


「失業」是俚語,指一袋錢(發薪日)或被解僱。這句雙關語以一種幽默的方式模仿了企業政策的押韻。


2. 深度解讀:奈保爾小說中的意義


在《史東先生和騎士的伙伴》中,主角理查‧史東在艾克斯卡公司工作,他面臨退休和無所事事的恐懼。 「同偷懶同薪酬」的雙關語反映了企業諷刺,即付出最少的努力就能獲得穩定的報酬,也反映了他對衰老和失去生產力規律的焦慮。


3. 雙關語構成要素概述


雙關語/文字遊戲:運用韻律或詼諧的措詞來批判辦公室文化。


同偷懶/懈怠:集體逃避辛苦工作。


同酬/同薪:無論實際產出如何,都維持相同的薪水。


若想更深入探討史東先生的性格特質或進行文學分析,歡迎隨時提問!



 張華    2016: 雙關語 (puns)的專題,到《浮生六記》芸問曰:「今日之遊樂乎?」眾曰:「非夫人之力不及此。」大笑而散。   2026   跟GOOGLE AI 與    V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》學英文雙關語:我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL      





我只有  V. S. 奈保爾 (NAIPAUL)中譯小說 《斯通與騎士伙伴》,無英文本

我提問:請用英文解釋 雙關語"同偷懶同薪酬" Mr Stone....by NAIPAUL



GOOGLE AI 答

In V.S. Naipaul's 1963 novel, Mr. Stone and the Knights Companion, the phrase "同偷懶同薪酬" translates to the English pun: "Equal slack, equal sack" or "Equal shirking, equal earning."
A pun (雙關語) is a humorous use of a word or phrase that has more than one meaning, or words that sound similar but mean different things. In the context of corporate life and retirement in Naipaul's book, this phrase plays with the ideas of modern work culture, laziness, and compensation.
Here is a comprehensive explanation of how to express and understand this pun in English.

1. Direct Translations for the Pun
To capture the rhyme, rhythm, and double-meaning of the Chinese phrase, you can use these English versions:
  • "Equal shirking, equal earning."
    • Shirking means avoiding work or being lazy (偷懶).
    • Earning refers to the salary or pay (薪酬).
    • This echoes the famous political slogan "Equal pay for equal work" but twists it cynically to mean: "If we all slack off the same amount, we should all get paid the same amount."
  • "Equal slack, equal sack."
    • Slack means to laze around or work slowly.
    • Sack is a slang term for a bag of money (payday) or getting fired. In a humorous way, it mimics a corporate policy rhyme.

2. Deep Dive: The Meaning in Naipaul's Novel
In Mr. Stone and the Knights Companion, the protagonist Richard Stone works for Excal and faces the dread of retirement and idleness. The pun "同偷懶同薪酬" reflects corporate satire where minimal effort yields steady pay, and mirrors his anxious outlook on aging and loss of productive routine.
3. Summary of the Pun Components
  • Pun / Wordplay (雙關語): Using rhythmic or witty phrasing to critique office culture.
  • Equal Shirking / Slacking (同偷懶): Collective avoidance of hard work.
  • Equal Earning / Pay (同薪酬): Maintaining the same salary regardless of actual output.
For further academic breakdown or literary analysis paragraphs regarding Mr. Stone's character, feel free to ask!

在V.S.奈保爾1963年的小說《斯通先生與騎士伴侶》中,「同偷懶同薪酬」這句話可以翻譯成英文雙關語:「Equal slack, equal sack」或「Equal shirking, equal earning」。


雙關語(pun)是指幽默地使用一個單字或短語,使其具有多種含義,或使用發音相似但意思不同的單字。在奈保爾的小說中,這句話以公司生活和退休為背景,巧妙地諷刺了現代工作文化、懶惰和薪資等概念。


以下是如何用英語表達和理解這個雙關語的詳細解釋。


1. 雙關語的直接翻譯


為了捕捉中文片語的韻律、節奏和雙關意義,你可以使用以下英文版本:


“Equal shirking, equal earning.”


「Shirking」指的是逃避工作或偷懶。


收入指的是薪水或報酬(薪酬)。


這呼應了著名的政治口號“同工同酬”,但卻以一種諷刺的方式將其扭曲為:“如果我們都偷懶到同樣的程度,我們就應該都拿到同樣的報酬。”


“同偷懶,同失業。”


「偷懶」指的是懶散或工作遲緩。


「失業」是俚語,指一袋錢(發薪日)或被解僱。這句雙關語以一種幽默的方式模仿了企業政策的押韻。


2. 深度解讀:奈保爾小說中的意義


在《史東先生和騎士的伙伴》中,主角理查‧史東在艾克斯卡公司工作,他面臨退休和無所事事的恐懼。 「同偷懶同薪酬」的雙關語反映了企業諷刺,即付出最少的努力就能獲得穩定的報酬,也反映了他對衰老和失去生產力規律的焦慮。


3. 雙關語構成要素概述


雙關語/文字遊戲:運用韻律或詼諧的措詞來批判辦公室文化。


同偷懶/懈怠:集體逃避辛苦工作。


同酬/同薪:無論實際產出如何,都維持相同的薪水。


若想更深入探討史東先生的性格特質或進行文學分析,歡迎隨時提

2016年10月3日 
分享對象:公開
公開
青少年時代,有不少美好的讀書經驗。
10月1日的漢清學堂之"人文促進"和"譯藝"獎聚會,請老友張華先生做場關於雙關語 (puns)的專題演講---此一主題,張兄在心中已蘊釀多年,不國他週六演講之前,還想找【浮生六記】的"夫人"增益。
當天匆忙,竟然只找到第一章的文本,所以我們就讓它成漏網之魚。
隔天,我心想,如果網路上沒有【浮生六記】,那,漢字文明缺點多。再試一把,找到了。通知

張兄:
"老兄,
謝謝昨天精彩演出。
找不到"夫人"雙關語
浮生六記  /卷二閑情記趣- 维基文库,自由的图书馆"
張兄:
" 感謝。我要找的是這一段,因為有典故:
芸問曰:「今日之遊樂乎?」眾曰:「非夫人之力不及此。」大笑而散
 。
  「今日之遊樂乎?」是後赤壁賦之名句。
  「非夫人之力不及此。」[1]是左傳僖公三十年晉文公之言。
[1] 「非夫人之力不及此」出自《左傳》燭之武退秦師一段,秦、晉聯軍攻鄭,燭之武勸退了秦軍,晉文公的臣下請求繼續攻打鄭國,晉文公回答:「不可。微夫人之力不及此。因人之力而敝之,不仁;失其所與,不知;以亂易整,不武。吾其還也。」亦去之。[子犯請晉侯截擊秦軍,晉侯說:「不可以,如果不是他,我沒有今天。受人幫助而回過頭來害他,這是不仁;失去秦國的親善,這是不智;以紛亂取代整齊,這是不武。我們回去吧。」晉侯也撤軍了。]"
我答:
"謝。真有學問。
昔日讀沈復的書,是開明書店的中英對照本 (林語堂英譯),很甜美、幸福的經驗。"


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